[49292] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: How do I log on while in flight?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leigh Anne Chisholm)
Thu Jun 27 17:19:34 2002
Reply-To: <lachisho@tnc.com>
From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" <lachisho@tnc.com>
To: "Joe Abley" <jabley@automagic.org>
Cc: "Scott Weeks" <surfer@mauislanwanman.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:20:05 -0600
In-Reply-To: <B6B68F37-8A12-11D6-801F-00039312C852@automagic.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Since when did any Canadian Federal Government department do anything that
corresponds with the policy of other Canadian Federal departments? (-:
I know several pilots that have left their phones on while in flight - or that
have used them "because they can". They haven't experienced the effects
others in the US have reported - and again, likely due to the less-dense
nature of the Canadian cellular network.
You found something in the AIP? Well yes, I found that too, but these days
that's been the ONLY thing I've been able to find. Oh... I'm longing for the
good ol' days (pre-"CARS").
-- Leigh Anne Chisholm
Network Engineer
Applied Design Networks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley@automagic.org]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:13 PM
> To: lachisho@tnc.com
> Cc: Scott Weeks; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: How do I log on while in flight?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2002, at 04:54 , Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>
> > The FCC prohibits communication using a cellular telephone while in an
> > aircraft in US airspace. In Canada, I don't believe there is such a
> > regulation.
>
> I couldn't find the energy to go swimming in the Canadian Air
> Regulations, but I did find this in the AIP Canada:
>
> > COM 5.14 Pilot Cellular Phone Use During a Radio Communications Failure
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > In the event of an in-flight radio communications failure, and only
> > after normal communications failure procedures have been followed (see
> > RAC 6.3.2.1), the pilot-in-command may attempt to contact the
> > appropriate NAV CANADA ATS unit by means of a cellular phone. Before
> > the pilot begins using a cellular phone to contact ATS in the event of
> > an in-flight communications failure, transponder-equipped aircraft
> > should squawk Code 7600 (see RAC 1.10.7).
>
> This at least suggests that there's no CRTC restriction on using
> cellular telephones from altitude (or that any such CRTC restrictions
> can be overriden by Transport Canada).
>
>
> Joe