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Re: ARIN IP allocation questionn

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Schwartz)
Thu Jun 27 04:56:59 2002

From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To: Joel Baker <lucifer@lightbearer.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:56:26 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20020627011350.B2572@lightbearer.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



>My *personal* opinion is that wise ISPs only punt customers to=
 ARIN once
>they reach the point where they can, in fact, have a normal ARIN=
 netblock
>assigned directly to them (currently a /20, unless I slept=
 through another
>change...)

=09The guidelines have a strong preference for singly-homed=
 networks to use IP 
address space allocated to them from their upstreams. I can think=
 of no 
logical reason* an ISP would prefer their customers to go to ARIN=
 rather than 
deal with them. The global routing table is better off for it as=
 well, as the 
customer's /20 would be a new route, rather than being included=
 in their 
provider's presumably larger block.

=09On the other hand, I can think of many reasons a customer would=
 prefer to 
deal with ARIN than their upstream, assuming the meager cost=
 wasn't a factor 
and they don't mind polluting the global table a tad. Of course,=
 that's not 
really an operational issue.

=09DS

=09* The only reason I could possibly think of is if the ISP is=
 afraid that the 
large allocation will impact their future allocations because=
 they don't have 
the confidence or competence to extract a proper justification=
 from their 
customer and present/defend that justification to ARIN when their=
 next 
allocation comes up. But this wasn't the reason you were thinking=
 of, right?



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