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Re: ARIN IP allocation question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph T. Klein)
Thu Jun 27 01:03:01 2002

Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 05:01:38 -0000
From: "Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net>
To: tarrall@ecentral.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20020627042240.C49BAC3D8E@smtp.ecentral.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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If you can't justify the cost business for a /20 then get a new upstream.
Sales people are attempting to contact you at this moment ...

--On Wednesday, 26 June 2002 22:22 -0600 tarrall@ecentral.com wrote:

>
>
> So, after lurking here for about 4 years I actually have a question...
>
> We're a fairly small ISP; we currently have a /24, a /25, and a /28
> allocated piecemeal from our upstream's two /19s. (Upstream is Viawest).
> Now that we've rolled out DSL we're needing a bit more space - based on
> current trends about 200 addresses over the next 6-12 months.
>
> Viawest has just told me that their policy is that customers who go over
> a /23 worth of address space must request further space directly from
> ARIN.
>
> In other words, we're supposed to call ARIN up and get a private /24 for
> this.  We're not multi-homed; we have absolutely no need for a private
> /24 instead of a chunk of Viawest's existing space.  We're not growing
> rapidly and it's very unlikely we'll more than 4 class C's worth of
> address space in the next 4 years.
>
> Questions: can we actually qualify for a /24 from ARIN?  Will all NSPs
> accept a private /24 announced from Viawest without us having to track
> down each NSP and negotiate with them?  Will the ARIN fee be $2500?
> Is refusing to provide small blocks out of their own address space
> a common practise for NSPs?
>
> The private /24 issue makes me mildly grouchy due to the whole "global
> routing table size" issue, but the $2500/year makes me REALLY grouchy,
> especially as that same /24 would cost our upstream about $40/year.
>
> Thanks -
>                        -Robert Tarrall.-
>                        Unix System/Network Admin
>                        E.Central/Neighborhood Link
>



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Joseph T. Klein                                         +1 414 628 3380
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