[48995] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SPEWS?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (william@elan.net)
Thu Jun 20 16:30:35 2002
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: <william@elan.net>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <200206202012.g5KKCxEx007293@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> > But there is intermediate altenative - create organization with all isps
> > as its members (kind of like ARIN/APNIC/RIPE for mail service providers)
> > and have all downstream corporate customers be required to either also be
> > member of this organization or relay email through its isp. Do note that
>
> I'm *sure* that our connectivity provider will want us to forward us
> several million pieces of email a day, just so they can forward it
> along, if we decided to not join. So we have our choices of joining
> (probably with a membership fee), letting a provider that probably doesn't
> want our load relay our mail (and that will cost *them* money for a mail
> server hefty enough to do it), or filter port 25 because we didn't pay...
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of autentication with using
SSL certicates for authentication of mail servers from member.Administering
large list is a nightmare so its easier that initial or direct member get
certicare from root organization and then members can themselve issue
(and revoke) a certificate to large enough customers with a backroute
that if mailserver does not accept your certificate, you can send email
through upstream.
> Looks like a good candidate for getting sued via RICO. "An offer you can't
> refused". Hmm...
This one I agree, serious legal problems that will arise due to large
marketing houses and some free-speach groups will need to be worked out.
But if there are anti-SPAM laws on country-level on majority of the world
and most isps agree that to some kind of mediation organization, this can
be overcome.
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William Leibzon
Elan Communications Inc.
