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Re: ATTBI refuses to do reverse DNS?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Woodfield)
Wed Jun 19 10:42:16 2002

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:38:13 -0400
From: Chris Woodfield <rekoil@semihuman.com>
To: North America Network Operators Group Mailing List <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20020619032338.2D1F0AC@proven.weird.com>
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If the people who "vote with their wallets" here are the ATTBI customers, d=
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forget that if you're not served by DSL, cable broadband is really the only=
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good option for broadband access (I'm not counting satellite, with >1s ping=
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times, or wireless, which is still in its infancy as a residential solution=
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And rarely will you find a home anywhere in the US served by more than one=
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cable company.

Makes it kinda kard to vote with your wallet when the vendor has de facto=
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monopoly power.

-C

> The people who are supposedly hurt here are those who ultimately have
> the most influence.  In the end they can vote with their wallets even if
> they can't edit the appropriate zone files directly.  (And the whole
> idea behind DNS trust really revolves around having two different
> parties agree on the mapping, not in simply allowing the user to edit
> their own reverse DNS!)=20
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> > Just as=20
> > Network Address Translation is not a security solution, neither is chec=
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> > INADDR.
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> I don't think anyone has said that DNS consistency is a security
> solution.  You keep confusing these concepts I think.  It's only one
> tiny part of the picture.  Fully consistent DNS only increases the level
> of trust you can have in the hostnames used.  Since hostnames are
> supposed to be more stable than IP addresses, you _want_ to have more
> trust in the hostnames, but with current protocols you cannot unless
> there is full consistency between forward and reverse lookups.
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> > Now if you check INADDR over Secure DNS, you might start having=20
> > some level of information to trust.
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> We can only hope, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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> --=20
> 								Greg A. Woods
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> +1 416 218-0098;  <gwoods@acm.org>;  <g.a.woods@ieee.org>;  <woods@roboha=
ck.ca>
> Planix, Inc. <woods@planix.com>; VE3TCP; Secrets of the Weird <woods@weir=
d.com>

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