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Re: remember the "diameter of the internet"?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Tue Jun 18 19:59:52 2002

From: "Stephen Sprunk" <ssprunk@cisco.com>
To: "Vadim Antonov" <avg@exigengroup.com>,
	"Martin, Christian" <cmartin@gnilink.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 18:59:06 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Thus spake "Vadim Antonov" <avg@exigengroup.com>
> Actually, not.  A router is a hell of a lot simpler than a Class-5
> switch, particularly if you don't do ATM, FR, X.25, MPLS,
> QoS, multicast, IPv6, blah, blah, blah.

The data plane is remarkably easier.  The control plane is arguable.  And
without ATM, FR, MPLS, QOS, multicast, etc. nobody will be buying your router.

> Demonstrably (proof by existence), those switches can be
> made reasonably reliable. So can be routers. It's the fabled
> computer tech culture of "be crappy, ship fast, pile features
> sky high, test after you ship" aka OFRV's Micro$oft envy,
> which is the root evil.

The question is actually whether anyone would pay the cost of a perfect router.
People complain that today's routers are too expensive, and most vendors are
going bankrupt or giving up.  Many of those were marketing to the "featureless
and reliable" niche.

S


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