[48564] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Bogon list
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Fri Jun 7 11:39:06 2002
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 16:38:23 +0100 (BST)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@opaltelecom.co.uk>
To: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20020607104400.03a61a00@mail.amaranth.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Indeed, and that is one of the reasons why I agree IXPs and P2P should not
use RFC1918
My point was merely that using RFC1918 on links does not break P-MTU,
whether it should be used or not was another question...
Steve
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Daniel Senie wrote:
>
> At 05:26 AM 6/7/02, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
>
>
> >On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Stephen Griffin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In the referenced message, Sean M. Doran said:
> > > > Basically, arguing that the routing system should carry around
> > > > even more information is backwards. It should carry less.
> > > > If IXes need numbers at all (why???) then use RFC 1918 addresses
> > > > and choose one of the approaches above to deal with questions
> > > > about why 1918 addresses result in "messy traceroutes."
> > > >
> > > > Fewer routes, less address consumption, tastes great, less filling.
> > > >
> > > > Sean.
> > >
> > > Do you:
> > > 1) Not believe in PMTU-D
> >
> >RFC1918 does not break path-mtu, filtering it does tho..
>
> Though many people either miss the point or don't care, RFC 1918 is also
> BCP 5. Last I checked, BCP stood for "Best Current Practice." So you've got
> a BCP document saying the addresses listed in RFC 1918 should not be
> present on the public network. So yes, filtering is required by RFC 1918,
> and so use of the private IP address blocks does break Path MTU discovery.
> Some folks find the private address space specified in RFC 1918 convenient,
> but ignore the stipulations on use contained in the same document.
>
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> Daniel Senie dts@senie.com
> Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranth.com
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