[48275] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: list problems?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Irving)
Sat May 25 03:07:09 2002

Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:05:22 -0500
From: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>
To: Scott Granados <scott@graphidelix.net>
Cc: Robert Beverly <rbeverly@rbeverly.net>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Router#Conf t
Router(config)#=20
<< Scott Granados wrote:
> And remember, Einstein probably wasn't right:).
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
Router(config)#=20

 What, God -does- play dice ?  ;)

>  I also recall that the
> popular myth that he failed math classes as a child is cincorrect.

Like I said, -=3D<*]Wild Duck[*>=3D-:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Excerpt: Einstein hated the academic
high school he was sent to in Munich, where success
depended on memorization and obedience to arbitrary
authority. His real studies were done at home with books
on mathematics, physics, and philosophy. A teacher
suggested Einstein leave school, since his very presence
destroyed the other students' respect for the teacher.

http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/early1.htm

Except:  But he was an independent thinker and
         hated the regimentation of the
         German school system. To Albert,
         schools were like barracks and
         teachers like military commanders.

http://myhero.com/hero.asp?hero=3Deinstein

Excerpt: The strict discipline of German schools did not appeal to the
  young Einstein, who was a poor student but conducted his own studies
  of philosophy, math, and science.=20

Excerpt: Albert stayed behind to continue his studies, but soon left scho=
ol with no diploma to rejoin
his family. He continued his independent studies, teaching himself calcul=
us and higher scientific
principles.=20

http://search.biography.com/print_record.pl?id=3D14539

Excerpt : He studied mathematics and physics at the=20
Swiss Polytechnic Institute in Zurich. He constantly failed math.

http://www.norfacad.pvt.k12.va.us/project/einstein/History.htm

Excerpt:  In 1894 Einstein's family moved to Milan but Einstein remained =
in Munich. In 1895 Einstein
failed an examination that would have allowed him to study for a diploma =
as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgen=F6ssische Technische Hochschule in Zurich.

By mid 1901 he had a temporary job as a teacher, teaching mathematics at =
the Technical High School in
Winterthur. Around this time he wrote:-=20

    "I have given up the ambition to get to a university ... "

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html

And Finally, in his own words, Excerpt:

 "Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this
experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive i=
n any specific social
environment-an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later =
on, it has been tempered
by a better insight into the causal connections. "

http://www.stcloud.msus.edu/~lesikar/einstein/freethink.html

Lets -not- rewrite history to appease the "Moral Majority",=20

       Who are most likely NEITHER.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
<LURK  P-L-E-A-S-E... PRETTY PLEASE... Aww... C'mon>
=20
> Hmm, if we're not careful our list will degrade from operational to my
> relativistic mass is bigger than your pc based relativistic mass:).
>=20
> On Fri,
> 24 May 2002, Robert Beverly wrote:
>=20
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:17:11AM -0500, Richard Irving wrote:
> > > Einstein wouldn't have made it anywhere, without his
> > > background in Mathematics that he got from a Prominent Ivy League...
> > >
> > >  Oh...... Shoot, did it again.
> > >
> > > Have you ever heard the expression "Flat World Thinking" ?
> > >
> > > Einstein was a Hero to many a Kid, -because- he was self taught.
> >
> > Einstein graduated from the prestigious Swiss Federal Polytechnic
> > college in Zurich.  His work on relativity was done afterward, at
> > the Swiss Patent office, while folks at Harvard were still searching
> > the Ether.
> >
> > A college degree is certainly not a prerequisite for intelligence, bu=
t
> > can often provide inspiration, even if that takes the form of a
> > dissatisfaction with the prevailing thinking.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > rob
> >

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post