[48090] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Granados)
Wed May 22 15:19:26 2002
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Granados <scott@graphidelix.net>
To: "Rowland, Alan D" <alan_r1@corp.earthlink.net>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
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Hey now, leave joe's garage out of this and stick to church oriented
activities. While your at it have a donut.
<now does that give away my age heh>
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Rowland,
Alan D wrote:
>
> While the effectiveness of degree requirements may be argued, they are
> efficient. When your HR department gets hundreds or thousands of
> applications, they need some way to find the wheat.
>
> The net sector is young and was mostly immune to traditional business
> practices. Not all traditional business practices are bad (see dot.bomb).
> Lack of business acumen means the days of six figure income and significant
> stock options because there were 10 job openings for every geek who could
> RTFM are over. Even though the "job market is coming back" there's still 20
> 'techies' in Birkenstocks and Star Wars t-shirts for every (decent) job
> hiring. Everything else being equal (which is often the case) a cert or
> degree is a great tie-breaker.
>
> Welcome to the traditional job market fellow geeks. Remember all the jokes
> about Sanitation Engineers? ;)
>
> Put another way, when you take that expensive car of yours in for service
> (you do have one if you're successful in this industry, right? ;) ), do you
> go to Joe's Garage (apologies to all named Joe) or a dealer/service center
> with "certified" mechanics?
>
> Just my 2¢. The delete key is your friend.
>
> Best regards,
> _________________________________________
> Alan Rowland
> (BS in Business and Management, UofM, 1990
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> time without notice"
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>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher J. Wolff [mailto:chris@bblabs.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:16 AM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems?
>
>
>
> I would add to that statement: Requiring a technology certification is
> equally as obsurd. I've been told I could pass the Emperor-Level CCIE
> test; however, I do not believe it will add more value for my customers.
>
> Regards,
> Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO
> Broadband Laboratories
> http://www.bblabs.com
>
>
> Andrew Dorsett said:
> *jumping on my soap box*
> I have to say that the idea of requiring a degree for the IT industry is
> obsurd.
>
