[47813] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Wed May 15 17:11:36 2002
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:10:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
To: Rob Thomas <robt@cymru.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Rob Thomas wrote:
> ] scanning would quickly become self defeating as attackers would only
> ] manage to cut themselves off from the net.
> To some degree, yes. Most of the miscreants are clueful enough not to
> scan from their home machines.
I disagree. They have to start somewhere. Most miscreants first attack
offshore hosts, then use those to attack domestic victims.
> The end result is a lot of hacked hosts are black holed.
And this is a bad thing?
> On one hand you could say "serves 'em right for being hacked!" On the
> other hand, you could wonder why it is that the non-geek broadband users
> must be system, network, and firewall administrators.
They don't. This is purely a response to rogue networks/blackhats and
apathetic/irresponsible/toothless NOCs.
-Dan
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