[4741] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Advice on dealing with Sprint
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Neil J. McRae)
Fri Sep 27 05:07:29 1996
To: Vadim Antonov <avg@quake.net>
cc: hank@rem.com, jon@worf.netins.net, freedman@netaxs.com, nanog@merit.edu,
neil@EASYNET.NET
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:57:06 PDT."
<199609262257.PAA00619@quest.quake.net>
From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@EASYNET.NET>
Reply-To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@EASYNET.NET>
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:03:26 +0100
On Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:57:06 -0700
Vadim Antonov <avg@quake.net> alleged:
> When i was at Sprint it was customary to ask customers to
> provide some assurance that routing information Sprint takes
> from them is going to stay sane. That was usually achieved
> by asking customers to send in their border configurations for
> review by SL engineering, and some formal criteria (like "no
> unfiltered IGP to BGP redistribution") was applied and said
> configuration had problems worked out before the actual peering
> was enabled.
>
> Anyway, that automatically made every customer with BGP to go
> down SCA (Special Customer Arrangement) route. I think sales
> didn't like that, for whatever reason, and i saw several attempts
> to make BGP peering a regular sale during my tenure there.
> I guess they succeded after coming with some "guidelines", but
> without any understanding of the issues involved.
>
> Somehow i became a big fan of Dilbert back then.
>
Vadim,
When you were at Sprint, I was at Demon and we BGP peered with
Sprint first using NetBSD/sparc IPX's with Morningstar PPP
then using BSD/OS and RISCOM N2 cards. One thing that I remember is
that your routers went insane _far_ more often that ours did.
INSC were never much use and the only way we got things done was to
cc: you and Sean in any reporting of faults. Nevertheless, both you
and Sean where always very helpful.
Cheers,
Neil.
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