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Re: Effective ways to deal with DDoS attacks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (E.B. Dreger)
Thu May 2 22:36:20 2002

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:35:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
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	"'Pete Kruckenberg'" <pete@kruckenberg.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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RAS> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:23:01 -0400
RAS> From: Richard A Steenbergen


RAS> They CAN filter on anything in the headers, it's just a matter of
RAS> convincing them that the specific filter you want is something they should
RAS> add to their software language and microcode. I'm sure as a core router
RAS> vendor they must hear every feature request imaginable and not know which
RAS> ones to follow up on. If anyone from Juniper is listening, I can tell you
RAS> 4 things to add which will stop all existing packet kiddie tools in their
RAS> tracks. But then again, I'd rather just have a language for bitmatching at
RAS> any offset. :)

And it wouldn't be that hard to have something to compile
rulesets into simply assembly, either:

	movb 0x12(1,%ecx),%al
	andb $0x34,%al
	xorb $0x14,%al
	jz some_destination

Oversimplified, yes.  But mask-then-test is one of the simpler
apps to write.  s/x86/chipofchoice/ and have fun.

Juniper being based on FreeBSD/x86, perhaps some kernel hooks
might be in order for those who wish to write their own code.


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Eddy

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