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Re: Effective ways to deal with DDoS attacks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vadim Antonov)
Thu May 2 04:52:01 2002

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vadim Antonov <avg@exigengroup.com>
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:

> 1) I hack connected ISP X
> 2) I inject www.ebay.com /32 blackhole route
> 3) no more ebay
> 
> I use ebay as an example of course, I wouldn't want them harmed cause how
> would I be able to buy all that nice routing gear at bargain basement
> prices without them? :)

Replace steps 2 and 3 with:

2) I route all packets going to Ebay to my box
3) I have my box to connect to real Ebay using passwords folks connecting 
   to my man-in-the-middle box (how many of them have a clue to carefully 
   look to the "SSL in use" icon anyway?)
4) I have the mershandise they bought shipped to me; and steal their CC 
   numbers in the process.

There are endless variations on the theme.  Access to the routing 
infrastructure _MUST_ be tightly controlled.

Intercepting traffic to root NSes is even more fun :)  And, Satan bless
the folks who want to let Unicode into DNS names, having many visually
indistinguishable "ebay.com"s is a breeze, so one can get valid X.509
certificates for those undistinguishable "ebays", too.

--vadim


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