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Re: bulk email

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Mon Apr 22 18:15:09 2002

Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:00:50 -0700
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
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On 04/22/02, James Cronin <james@unfortu.net> wrote: 

> As it's still likely to end up with the most popular domains
> @hotmail.com, @yahoo.com, @aol.com having several thousand recipients
> though I'm still interested in whether anyone has more experience
> of ensuring that mail doesn't get blackholed.

	Spam has reached such epic porportions that it is virtually
	guranteed that if you send mail out on a regular basis, you
	will eventually be blackholed somewhere.  But if you follow
	the advice here (as it sounds like you are), most sane folks
	will still accept your mail.

> I'm thinking along the lines of whether and how it's necessary to
> rate limit sending to those domains, whether they don't like single
> messages having more than a certain number of RCPT TO lines, whether
> there are contracts that one can sign to get access to some sort of
> super special non-public MX for them, etc...
> 
> or whether it's just all pot luck ;)

	It varies a lot, depending on the provider.  However, it'd
	probably help to remember that a load of mail which might
	DoS a small provider will almost certainly set off alarms at
	large providers...and that may get you blocked.

-- 
J.D. Falk                                 "say your peace" -- Scott Nelson
<jdfalk@cybernothing.org>                    (probably a typo, but I like it)

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