[46351] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: How to get better security people
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Fielding)
Tue Mar 26 12:00:15 2002
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From: Jay Fielding <jay.fielding@etrade.com>
To: "'LeBlanc, Jason'" <Jml@ebay.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:59:34 -0500
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Jason,
I don't know where you get your information, but E*Trade hasn't laid-off
their network security department. In fact, we're currently adding to it.
I know there are some good network security experts on this list so if
you're looking for a position then send your resume my way.
Jay Fielding
E*Trade NetOps
-----Original Message-----
From: LeBlanc, Jason [mailto:Jml@ebay.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:28 AM
To: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: How to get better security people
On that note, Etrade layed off their entire net sec team a few months back.
I don't trade there no more. ;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:05 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: How to get better security people
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> According to a recent salary survey telephone companies have some
> of the lowest paid information security professionals in comparison
> with other technology corporations, federal government, or financial
> companies. When the US Transportation Security Administration (aka,
> the agency in charge of airport screeners) is paying their computer
> security people more than telephone companies, its hard for phone
> companies to attact top security talent.
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> Customers need to let companies know that security and responsiveness
> affects their purchasing decisions. I think some companies
> are getting
> the message. But in today's market, with tight budgets and layoffs,
> security is often viewed as overhead. A lot of providers are lucky
> if they have one network engineer who does security stuff in her spare
> time. Full-fledge security departments are rare.
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Eric Whitehill wrote:
> > UUNet, by far is the best. I've had mixed results with
> Sprint. A couple
> > of years ago I had to deal with Hurricane Electric and the
> tech was really good about
> > it - he added in the ACL I needed right over the phone.
> >
> > Also, I know of a couple providers in the upper midwest
> that are pretty
> > good at working with DOS stuff. Email me off list if you are
> > interested.
>