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RE: How to get better security people

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (LeBlanc, Jason)
Tue Mar 26 11:28:26 2002

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From: "LeBlanc, Jason" <Jml@ebay.com>
To: 'Sean Donelan' <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:27:49 -0800
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On that note, Etrade layed off their entire net sec team a few months back.
I don't trade there no more. ;)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean@donelan.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:05 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: How to get better security people
> 
> 
> 
> 
> According to a recent salary survey telephone companies have some
> of the lowest paid information security professionals in comparison
> with other technology corporations, federal government, or financial
> companies.  When the US Transportation Security Administration (aka,
> the agency in charge of airport screeners) is paying their computer
> security people more than telephone companies, its hard for phone
> companies to attact top security talent.
> 
> Customers need to let companies know that security and responsiveness
> affects their purchasing decisions.  I think some companies 
> are getting
> the message.  But in today's market, with tight budgets and layoffs,
> security is often viewed as overhead.  A lot of providers are lucky
> if they have one network engineer who does security stuff in her spare
> time.  Full-fledge security departments are rare.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Eric Whitehill wrote:
> > UUNet, by far is the best.  I've had mixed results with 
> Sprint.  A couple
> > of years ago I had to deal with Hurricane Electric and the 
> tech was really good about
> > it - he added in the ACL I needed right over the phone.
> >
> > Also, I know of a couple  providers in the upper midwest 
> that are pretty
> > good at working with DOS stuff.  Email me off list if you are
> > interested.
> 

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