[46291] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verio as an DS3 upstream provider - comments?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Douglas A. Dever)
Mon Mar 25 02:31:33 2002
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:30:07 -0500
From: "Douglas A. Dever" <doug@usvoicedata.com>
To: Mark Radabaugh <mark@amplex.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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Previously, Mark Radabaugh (mark@amplex.net) wrote:
>
>
> > Subject: Verio as an DS3 upstream provider - comments?
> >
> > I'm looking into possibly using Verio as an additional
> > upstream provider.
> >
> > If you have any experience with Verio, can you give me any
> > feedback on them?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > - mz
>
> Given the rapidly shrinking size of the geographic area served, the sale
> of all of the dialup business to Earthlink and the closure of many of
> the data centers I would not be surprised to see significant depeering
> with Verio in the near future.
Empty datacenters don't push or pull bandwidth. Closing those hardly
affects peering policy. I don't see this as a major concern at the
moment.
> Billing is an utter basket case. I really like the part where Verio
> closed the Toledo POP and left town but is still billing us for service.
> I'm waiting for them to call and threaten to shut us off - that should
> be a fairly humorous conversation.
I still like the fact that the Toledo POP fit in the trunk of my car,
but that's beside the point - the important thing is that I still
owe you a hot dog next time I'm in town. :-)
>
> The network itself was decent. Good connectivity and low latency but I
> wouldn't expect it to last much longer.
Speaking for extensive personal experience - Verio has a heck of a
backbone. And if you're in one of the cities they plan on continuing
to provide access in, then they'd be a viable option - If you know
what you're doing and don't need much support from your upstream.
--
Douglas A. Dever
doug@usvoicedata.com
