[46077] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Telco's write best practices for packet switching networks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jake Khuon)
Wed Mar 13 04:55:02 2002
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From: "Jake Khuon" <khuon@NEEBU.Net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Ratul Mahajan's message of Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:23:51 -0800.
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Reply-To: khuon@NEEBU.Net (Jake Khuon)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 01:54:08 -0800
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### On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:23:51 -0800 (PST), Ratul Mahajan
### <ratul@cs.washington.edu> casually decided to expound upon Sean Donelan
### <sean@donelan.com> the following thoughts about "Re: Telco's write best
### practices for packet switching networks ":
RM> On the downside -- this is yet another instance of conflict between
RM> research and operations. Being able to address the (core) routers
This may be a repeat discussion but I also wonder if there are some other
social level conflicts derived from how one structures their management
network. For instance, many providers have a seperate group which handles
the corporate IT which is different from the group which handles the
production provider network. One could take the stance that the production
network should only be reachable from the corporate network and that the
management network become an extension of the corporate network. I imagine
that many network engineers on the side of the production network might take
issue with that (I probably would). For better or worse, many of us have
gotten used to managing our backbones under a single umbrella including
control over how we design and run our management network. I'd be
interested in hearing about some of the practises of bigger providers
(assuming I'm not asking anyone to violate security) on how they let their
emloyees access their infrastrcture. Do you seperate and outsource your
management infrastructure to your corporate IT support? Do you seperate but
control it within your production network engineering groups? If so, do you
have a special group within network engineering concentrating specifically
on management or do you have the same people designing the network also do
the management design?
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