[4590] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: A modest proposal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kelly J. Cooper)
Wed Sep 18 19:15:37 1996
From: "Kelly J. Cooper" <kcooper@noc.bbn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:10:29 -0400
In-Reply-To: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@bifrost.seastrom.com>
"Re: A modest proposal" (Sep 18, 6:54pm)
To: nanog@merit.edu
On Sep 18, 6:54pm, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
* * From: Dalvenjah FoxFire <dalvenjah@dal.net>
* *
* * I haven't used any myself, but apparently there are several software
* * packages out there with a pretty graphical front end, complete with
* * Hollywood-style "Click to destroy machine" buttons and menus.
* *
* *Uh huh, right. If you ever actually see anything like this, lemme know.
*
* Ok, RS.
*
* One piece of software is called UpYours! and it's a mailbombing
* tool built by a group called "Global kOS" to run over Windows95.
* It's got a lovely interface including buttons for "BOMB" "ULTRA"
* and "STOP" with an input window for "Countdown" start & stop
*
*How did the topic get changed from packet-spewing attacks to
*application-layer attacks?
It didn't. Dalvenjah stated attack software packages with graphical
front ends existed. You expressed doubt. I responded with evidence.
Just because this one happens to be application layer doesn't mean
there aren't others out there to run any number of different attacks.
The tools are being built. They are designed with ease of use in
mind.
How did the topic change from fighting network attacks to nit-picking?
My point was the possibility for widespread use of simplistic attack
mechanisms. Even if they're trivial to block, with enough attackers
using them with enough varying patterns, saturation becomes the issue
no matter what the exploit.
Kelly J.
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