[45833] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [nsp] Cisco DS3 Questions..
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jesper Skriver)
Fri Feb 22 14:46:44 2002
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:45:31 +0100
From: Jesper Skriver <jesper@skriver.dk>
To: Stephen Sprunk <ssprunk@cisco.com>
Cc: "Gyorfy, Shawn" <sgyorfy@elinkny.com>, nanog@merit.edu,
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In-Reply-To: <036701c1bbc8$016edaa0$e1876540@ssprunkpc>; from ssprunk@cisco.com on Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:27:16AM -0600
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 11:27:16AM -0600, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
> Thus spake "Gyorfy, Shawn" <sgyorfy@elinkny.com>
> > Since the topic exploded, what are your opinions on encapsulation of
> leased
> > line DS3s. We currently use Frame Relay for out Point to Point DS3
> > connections. Personally, I don't know why we use FR as our encapsulation,
> > and so the question to all. If you are running Cisco to Cisco, would it
> be
> > wise to run HDLC or PPP? Our DS3s' here are hardly maxed out, 15% or so,
> so
> > I'm not complaining about the few extra bits I can squeeze out them but
> > maybe that 15% can shrink to 10% with less overhead. Opinions or examples
> > of life appreciated.
>
> As you're finding out, this is largely a religious issue. There are no
> significant differences in overhead between HDLC, PPP, and FR. Any
> performance difference can be more easily attributed to vendor
> implementation than to protocol efficiency.
>
> In practice, HDLC is the dominant encapsulation, primarily since it's
> Cisco's default. If for no other reason, you should use HDLC because almost
> everyone expects you to be using it. PPP is obviously present in non-Cisco
> shops, and anywhere MLPPP or LFI is needed. FR is only used as a p-t-p
> encapsulation in certain cases that require it; almost nobody uses it
> without a good reason.
We allways use PPP, the primary reasons being:
- The line protocol goes down when the line is looped.
- It's easier to debug than HDLC
/Jesper
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