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Re: Reducing Usenet Bandwidth

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Schwartz)
Tue Feb 12 00:49:04 2002

From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
To: <stuart@tech.org>, Vadim Antonov <avg@exigengroup.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:46:45 -0800
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:45:51 -0800, Stephen Stuart wrote:

>I would argue that what USENET needs is a way for the cost of
>publication to be incurred by the publisher; storing the data in=
 your
>own repository (or repositories) while pointers get flooded=
 through
>the USENET distribution system would give publishers an=
 incentive to
>do garbage collection that they do not have today.

=09I don't see the logic of this. If you want access to my content,=
 *I* should 
pay? Publisher pays would likely reduce the quality of content=
 such that even 
more of the content would consist of content that benefits the=
 publisher to 
provide to you rather than content that benefits the reader to=
 read.

=09Think about it. I post a reply to a question in a newgroup. The=
 more 
intelligent and interesting it is, and the more my reputation=
 makes people 
want to read my interesting comments, the more I pay. Does that=
 make any 
sense?

>It would almost be like gluing a USENET distribution front-end=
 onto a
>collection of Napster back-ends.

=09The net effect of 'publisher pays' would logically be that=
 publishers would 
have to somehow be compensated for their payments, most likely by=
 including 
more commercial content.

=09The problem with the current scheme is not so much who pays but=
 what 
determines the cost, which is purely the volume of content sent.=
 If you start 
using the web distribution model for news across domains, you=
 should expect 
to pay for content (either through ads or whatever) just as you=
 do for other 
content provided by the 'supplier pays' model.

=09DS



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