[45449] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: OT: Interesting email I received
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Lark)
Fri Feb 1 16:33:34 2002
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From: "Daniel Lark" <dlark@elmresources.com>
To: "'Joe Blanchard'" <jblanchard@wyse.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:31:03 -0700
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It=92s definitely from National ISP. The header info bears this out.
Furthermore, their website is definitely within Qwest=92s net block.
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I think it=92s pretty safe to say that they have pretty much poisoned
themselves with the vast majority of US ISPs. (Okay might be wishful
thinking=85)
=20
-dan
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Joe Blanchard
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:16 PM
To: 'nanog@merit.edu'
Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received
=20
=20
I'm wondering if the originator of the email was "trying" to=20
set QWest/National up by sending this email out, that=20
is, someone simply spammed it in hopes National-isp got=20
the boot/warning from their peer for violating TOS.=20
Do the headers indicate its origin?=20
Just my 2=A2s=20
-Joe=20
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From: Daniel Lark[SMTP:dlark@elmresources.com]=20
Reply To: dlark@elmresources.com=20
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:56 PM=20
To: 'mike harrison'; 'Dan Hollis'=20
Cc: nanog@merit.edu=20
Subject: RE: OT: Interesting email I received=20
=20
Oh they're definitely off of qwest:=20
Registrant:=20
CnS Systems, Inc. (NATIONALISP11-DOM)=20
4304 Hunter Oaks Dr.=20
High Point, NC 27265=20
US=20
Domain Name: NATIONAL-ISP.ORG=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s definitely from National =
ISP.
The header info bears this out. Furthermore, their website is definitely =
within
Qwest’s net block.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think it’s pretty safe to =
say that
they have pretty much poisoned themselves with the vast majority of US =
ISPs.
(Okay might be wishful thinking…)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
owner-nanog@merit.edu
[mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf Of </span></b>Joe
Blanchard<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February =
01, 2002
2:16 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'nanog@merit.edu'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OT: =
Interesting email
I received</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'm wondering if =
the
originator of the email was "trying" to </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>set QWest/National up by sending this email out, that =
</span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>is, someone simply spammed it in hopes National-isp =
got </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>the boot/warning from their peer for violating TOS. =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Do the headers =
indicate
its origin?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Just my =
2=A2s</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>-Joe</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans =
Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
Serif"'>----------</span></font> <br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"MS Sans Serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b> <font =
size=3D2
face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS =
Sans Serif"'>Daniel
Lark[SMTP:dlark@elmresources.com]</span></font> <br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"MS Sans Serif";font-weight:bold'>Reply To:</span></font></b>
<font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans =
Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
Serif"'>dlark@elmresources.com</span></font>
<br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"MS Sans Serif";font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b> <font =
size=3D2
face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS =
Sans Serif"'>Friday,
February 01, 2002 12:56 PM</span></font> <br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>'mike
harrison'; 'Dan Hollis'</span></font> <br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"MS Sans Serif";font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b> =
<font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans =
Serif"'>nanog@merit.edu</span></font>
<br>
<b><font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans Serif"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"MS Sans Serif";font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b>
<font size=3D2 face=3D"MS Sans =
Serif"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>RE: OT: =
Interesting email
I received</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oh they're definitely off of =
qwest:</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Registrant:</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>CnS
Systems, Inc. (NATIONALISP11-DOM)</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
4304 Hunter Oaks Dr.</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
High Point, NC 27265</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
US</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Domain Name: =
NATIONAL-ISP.ORG</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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