[45388] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: NAT Router for other purposes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Blanchard)
Thu Jan 31 18:31:38 2002
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From: Joe Blanchard <jblanchard@wyse.com>
To: "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
Cc: "'james.cutler@eds.com'" <james.cutler@eds.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:19:26 -0800
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I Totally agree. No reason for an ISP to charge for such things.
Reminds me of the days when the phone company used to charge
per phone before they were broken up.
I have a feeling that in the future, perhaps, it will be a per packet cost.
At one place I worked each Dept was charged xxx per Gigabyte of
data transfered to and from their respective segments.
Maybe this will slide into the home market someday don't know.
Cheers
-Joe Blanchard
> ----------
> From: Cutler, James R[SMTP:james.cutler@eds.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:40 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Cc: Cutler, James R
> Subject: NAT Router for other purposes
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>
>
>
> I use a Linksys BEFSR41B to connect both my PC and my Linksys printer
> server
> together while I am using my Internet connection. This way I can use the
> Internet and any of the three printers supported transparently with
> nothing
> but selecting which printer I want to use.
>
> And, since I use a company laptop as my PC, the hardware changes often.
> The
> Linksys insulates these changes from my ISP connection.
>
> Oh, in addition, I never see DOS attacks against my PC or my printer
> server,
> since the Linksys does not respond to connection attempts.
>
> Does this mean that I am an evil person, trying to cheat the ISP? Should
> I
> be charged $5/month to use my printers which cannot be accessed from the
> ISP
> connection?
>
> I think not, and, not.
>
> -
> James R. Cutler, EDS
> 800 Tower Drive, Troy, MI 48098
> 248 265 7514 (8-3650
>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I Totally agree. No =
reason for an ISP to charge for such things. </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Reminds me of the =
days when the phone company used to charge</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">per phone before =
they were broken up. </FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I have a feeling =
that in the future, perhaps, it will be a per packet cost. </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">At one place I =
worked each Dept was charged xxx per Gigabyte of </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">data transfered to =
and from their respective segments.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Maybe this will =
slide into the home market someday don't know. </FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-Joe =
Blanchard</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I use a Linksys BEFSR41B to connect =
both my PC and my Linksys printer server</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">together while I am using my Internet =
connection. This way I can use the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Internet and any of the three =
printers supported transparently with nothing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">but selecting which printer I want to =
use.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">And, since I use a company laptop as =
my PC, the hardware changes often. The</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Linksys insulates these changes from =
my ISP connection.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Oh, in addition, I never see DOS =
attacks against my PC or my printer server,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">since the Linksys does not respond to =
connection attempts.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Does this mean that I am an evil =
person, trying to cheat the ISP? Should I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">be charged $5/month to use my =
printers which cannot be accessed from the ISP</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">connection?</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I think not, and, not.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">James R. Cutler, EDS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">800 Tower Drive, Troy, MI =
48098</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">248 265 7514 (8-3650</FONT>
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