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Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Barrette)
Thu Jan 31 17:44:55 2002

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To add more fuel to the fire, how does one combat the issue of "stolen" IP
addresses. Stolen IP's are worse to me than a user doing NAT.

Slightly intuitive users could figure out that their IP is one of a /24 and
just statically assign one to their other machine with out paying for it,
and worse take somebodies IP and make that user non-functional. I know the
cable modem service where I live will allow this type of activity.




At 01:37 PM 1/31/2002 -0800, Keith Woodworth wrote:
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>
>
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Dan Hollis wrote:
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>|+On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Marc Pierrat wrote:
>|+> It's not very enforceable, so I'd be very surprised to see much money
>|+> spent on this witch hunt.
>|+
>|+At least one provider has a fully staffed full time "anti-nat" divison 
>|+now. But will they burn more cash in the nat witch-hunt than they save?
>|+
>|+I also wonder about false positives. Watch the lawsuits fly as they 
>|+mistakenly cutoff non-nat customers.
>
>From a technical standpoint how does one detect NAT users over the
>network?
>
>Keith
>
>
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