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Re: Persistent BGP peer flapping - do you care?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher A. Woodfield)
Sat Jan 19 14:38:46 2002

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:39:48 -0500
To: Jake Khuon <khuon@NEEBU.Net>
Cc: Susan Hares <skh@nexthop.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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IMO, bad negototiation messages are a bit more indicitave of a 
malfunctioning router that a bad prefix is, as it's unquestioningly 
something that was originated by the router in question, where a bad 
prefix could easily have originated elsewhere. Receipt of a malformed 
negotiation message should definitely be grounds for terminating the BGP 
session.

Whether or not a BGP peer shuts down the peering session upon receipt of a 
bad prefix, it should definitely refuse to propagate the invalid data. The 
fact that Brand "C" routers propagated the bad prefix was the primary 
cause of what happened in October.

-C

On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 06:46:42PM -0800, Jake Khuon wrote:
> 
> ### On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:39:10 -0500, Susan Hares <skh@nexthop.com>
> ### casually decided to expound upon Vijay Gill <vijay@umbc.edu> the
> ### following thoughts about "Re: Persistent BGP peer flapping - do you
> ### care? ":
> 
> SH> What else causes repeative peer bounces other than the broken prefix?
> 
> Well... I remember when bad capability negotiation messages would cause the
> session to drop.  Although this is before any update messages were sent. 
> However it still caused repeating session bouncing.
> 
> 
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