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Re: Blocking Internet Gaming

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Legate)
Wed Jan 9 05:07:29 2002

Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 02:13:07 -0800
From: Jason Legate <jlegate@alienchick.com>
To: James <james@james-web.net>
Cc: "'Todd Suiter'" <todd@s4r.com>, "'Walter Gray'" <wgray@wwns.net>,
	nanog@merit.edu
Message-ID: <20020109021307.E7864@vineyard.evine.com>
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I used to use a wonderful little tool called trafshow for identifying chatty
streams/conversations.  I haven't had to use it in a while, but it may stil=
l be
worth looking at.  Had a very nice interface, and accepted tcpdump-ish gram=
mar
for filtering iirc.

-j

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:27:14PM -0500, James wrote:
> From: "James" <james@james-web.net>
> To: "'Todd Suiter'" <todd@s4r.com>
> Cc: "'Walter Gray'" <wgray@wwns.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
> Subject: RE: Blocking Internet Gaming
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:27:14 -0500
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
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> They are specifiable on the server side.  And most server operators run
> on default ports as it is easier to connect.  But you are right.  An
> organization policy of no games is better. =20
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> You could maybe also see if a tool like esniff (not free) or tcpdump
> (free) would work to track people down.
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> - James
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Todd Suiter
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:21 PM
> To: James
> Cc: 'Walter Gray'; nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Blocking Internet Gaming
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> Problem with that is you can spec those ports pretty much at will. This
> came up
> on the focus-ids@securityfocus list last week. Policy is a good place to
> start. Make it obvious that your org does not approve of this type of
> thing.
> Then start looking at tcpdump output to find the ports/people, and go
> from
> there.
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> toddler
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> On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, James wrote:
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> >
> > What kind of games specifically?
> >
> > Like online Java games (Bejeweled)?  Or games like Quake, Unreal,
> Tribes
> > etc?
> >
> > The latter is much easier, just block all traffic to/from the default
> > ports which use them.  A quick google would yield what they use.  I'll
> > give you a quick hint and say Quake3 is 29760-5 or so and Tribes1/2 is
> > 28000-28005 or so.
> >
> > - James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf
> Of
> > Walter Gray
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:03 PM
> > To: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Blocking Internet Gaming
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anybody know of any good software or way to restrict Internet
> > gaming on
> > a corporate Network?
> >
> >
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Jason Legate
Sr. Net/Sys Admin, eVine, Inc.
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