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RE: FATPipe vs. BGP

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Watterworth)
Fri Jan 4 10:09:19 2002

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From: Lee Watterworth <lwatterworth@rim.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:08:27 -0500 
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F5 announced a new product which will apparently accomplish the same thing,
although there are no technical documents available for it yet...
 
http://secure.f5.com/news/releases/release121201.html
<http://secure.f5.com/news/releases/release121201.html> 
 
-Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: James Smith [mailto:jsmith@PRESIDIO.com]
Sent: January 3, 2002 5:43 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: FATPipe vs. BGP



Anyone deploy FATPipe boxes yet? Just got through a preso about it, they
bill it as a highly survivable VPN solution, but also as a way of getting
multiple inbound/outbound/backup pipes to work from multiple providers
without having to use BGP.

They actually use DNS with a short TTL (under 10 seconds) to do the failover
on inbound. With failover related to TTL, I can guess which way the users
want the knob to turn...

My concern is the need for the box to be your primary (authoritative) DNS in
this role, with no secondary DNS support (available in the 2.0 release, I
was told). No need to tell me how bad of an idea this is, what I'm looking
for is actual "by golly, we did it, and this is what we ran into" stories.
Especially from multi-site, multi-sub-domain sites.

I bet it is a pain to keep all those primary DNS servers in sync... 

http:\\www.fatpipeinc.com <http:\\www.fatpipeinc.com>  

James H. Smith II  NNCDS NNCSE 
Systems Engineer 
The Presidio Corporation 
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<DIV><SPAN class=036565914-04012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>F5 
announced a new product which will apparently accomplish the same thing, 
although there are no technical documents available for it 
yet...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=036565914-04012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A 
href="http://secure.f5.com/news/releases/release121201.html">http://secure.f5.com/news/releases/release121201.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=036565914-04012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-Lee</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> James Smith 
  [mailto:jsmith@PRESIDIO.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 3, 2002 5:43 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> nanog@merit.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> FATPipe vs. 
  BGP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2>Anyone deploy FATPipe boxes yet? Just got through a preso 
  about it, they bill it as a highly survivable VPN solution, but also as a way 
  of getting multiple inbound/outbound/backup pipes to work from multiple 
  providers without having to use BGP.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>They actually use DNS with a short TTL (under 10 seconds) to 
  do the failover on inbound. With failover related to TTL, I can guess which 
  way the users want the knob to turn...</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>My concern is the need for the box to be your primary 
  (authoritative) DNS in this role, with no secondary DNS support (available in 
  the 2.0 release, I was told). No need to tell me how bad of an idea this is, 
  what I'm looking for is actual "by golly, we did it, and this is what we ran 
  into" stories. Especially from multi-site, multi-sub-domain sites.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I bet it is a pain to keep all those primary DNS servers in 
  sync...</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2><A target=_blank 
  href="http:\\www.fatpipeinc.com">http:\\www.fatpipeinc.com</A></FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>James H. Smith II&nbsp; NNCDS NNCSE</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Systems Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>The Presidio 
  Corporation</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>&lt;include&gt; fancy.sig</FONT> 
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