[44436] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Next generation DSLAMs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (srihari varada)
Mon Nov 26 19:22:42 2001
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Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:22:23 -0500
From: srihari varada <varada@txc.com>
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To: miquels@cistron-office.nl, Geoff Huston <gih@telstra.net>
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Read the posts by Geoff (inlcuding the provided article) and Miquel. I
am trying to
understand if ILECs could provision IP-VPN and MPLS-VPN service (not
internet access)
to, for instance, business subscribers with the ISPs, competitive and
non-competitive, still providing
internet access (and, perhaps Layer 2 or IP-VPN or MPLS-VPNs). Would
this be prohibited
by regulations? If so, under what context. Is it because,
competitiveness would be hampered
from the value added service provisioning point of view? Miquel had some
references to it.
Some elaborations would be useful.
Secondly, is it reasonable to say that the notion of next generation
DSLAMs a myth (until
regulations change) from the perspective of provisioning IP-VPNs or
MPLS-VPNs right in them.
Regards,
Srihari Varada
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Read the posts by Geoff (inlcuding the provided article) and Miquel. I
am trying to
<br>understand if ILECs could provision <i>IP-VPN </i>and<i> MPLS-VPN service</i>
(not<i> internet access</i>)
<br>to, for instance, business subscribers with the ISPs, <i>competitive</i>
and <i>non-competitive</i>, still providing
<br><i>internet </i>access (and, perhaps Layer 2 or IP-VPN or MPLS-VPNs).
Would this be prohibited
<br>by regulations? If so, under what context. Is it because, competitiveness
would be hampered
<br>from the value added service provisioning point of view? Miquel had
some references to it.
<br>Some elaborations would be useful.
<p>Secondly, is it reasonable to say that the notion of next generation
DSLAMs a myth (until
<br>regulations change) from the perspective of provisioning IP-VPNs or
MPLS-VPNs right in them.
<br>
<p>Regards,
<p>Srihari Varada</html>
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