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Re: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Schwartz)
Tue Oct 30 00:12:19 2001

From: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:11:23 -0800
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>> I'm not sure I like the use of the word bulk.  The reason is=
 that  it is
>>not precise.  Is 10 bulk?  50?  Is it only bulk if I use a =
 "spam tool"?

>Bulk is more than 1 copy.  How do I know if something is bulk?
>A simple test.  Is this something that could have been sent to=
 someone else
>with either no modification, or a trivial "mailmerge"=
 operation.
>It then becomes up to the spammer to prove otherwise to his=
 abuse desk, who
>will probably have received multiple complaints anyway.

=09I generally measure bulk in a more subjective but more useful=
 way. If 
someone composes ten pages of text and sends it to three people,=
 I don't 
consider that bulk. If someone sends one paragraph of text they=
 composed to 
fifty people, that's bulk. If someone ads 'look at this' to=
 twenty pages they 
stole from someone else and sends it to 10 people, that's bulk.

=09The test is, is this person trying to spread a minimum amount of=
 original 
content to the maximum number of people? Or is the content=
 specifically 
targeted to each person by a human being? In other words, is this=
 a rifle 
being aimed or a machine gun being sprayed? Is a person trying to=
 use email 
as a publishing means?

=09I have no objection if someone who honestly saw a message I=
 wrote and 
thought I'd be suitable for a particular job emails me asking if=
 I'm 
interested. However, the same email would be bulk if sent to=
 everyone who 
posts to NANOG, even if says, "I saw your post about "Re: Fwd:=
 Re: Digital 
Island sponsors DoS attempt" and thought you might be interested=
 in buying 
our premium fishing worms".

=09DS



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