[43595] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [NEWS] FBI To Require ISPs To Reconfigure E-mail Systems (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph T. Klein)
Fri Oct 19 16:42:21 2001
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:39:34 +0000
From: "Joseph T. Klein" <jtk@titania.net>
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To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>,
nanog@merit.edu
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If it bothers you all so much, then put together a petition, circulate
it at NANOG, send the results to congress.
... petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Repeat at IETF.
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:41:02 PDT, Randy Bush said:
>
>>>Somewhere along with the power to vote particular politicians in or out
>>>must come some respect for the laws those people create, even the ones we
>>>don't think are perfect.
>>>
>>if i and others had followed your advice, african-americans would still
>>ride in the back of the bus, we would still have atmospheric atomic
>>testing, and we would probably still be losing american and viet namese
>>lives in viet nam and those on the streets and campuses of the country who
>>disagreed with a bunch of now-convicted felons.
>>
>
> So you're saying, for instance, that the *proper* thing to do if you disagree
> with the anti-circumvention rules that the DMCA added to 17 USC 1201 is to just
> go ahead and break them, or that the proper thing to do is to lobby to get
> the law fixed?
>
> I'd suggest that the right thing to do is to lobby your congresscreatures,
> unless you're a visiting Russian programmer who wants to be a test case....
>
> Yes, sometimes breaking the law in order to force a test case so there's
> a judicial review of the constitutionality is required. But unless you're
> trying to be either a test case or a martyr, you're stuck with the law until
> it's changed.
>
--
Joseph T. Klein +1 414 915 7489
Senior Network Engineer jtk@titania.net
Adelphia Business Solutions jtk@adelphiacom.net
"... the true value of the Internet is its connectedness ..."
-- John W. Stewart III
