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Re: No more MMDS fixed wireless networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Curtis Maurand)
Thu Oct 4 11:32:33 2001

Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:28:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Curtis Maurand <curtis@lamere.net>
To: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>
Cc: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org>,
	"Christopher J. Wolff" <chris@bblabs.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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Oh, and yes, it might not scale, but I'd rather have 250 customers at $150
per month than 1 thousand at $40.00/month.  Its much easier to support.
And I don't have to deal with Verizon for loops, etc.

Curtis

On 4 Oct 2001, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:

>
> <vijay>it does not scale</vijay>
>
>
> Curtis Maurand <curtis@lamere.net> writes:
>
> > There are an awful lot of small ISP's out there doing fixed wireless and
> > making a bit of money at it.  They're not doing MMDS, they're doing 802.11
> > and just getting it done.  Better yet, they have no recurring loop costs
> > to contend with.  That Nokia rooftop system looks pretty cool from where I
> > sit.
> >
> > Curtis Maurand
> > System Administrator
> > lamere.net powered by Prexar
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> > *** My opinions are not those of my employer. ***
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Bora Akyol wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > If they actually did this, it is about time they finally woke up and
> > > smelled the coffee.
> > >
> > > There is pretty much no way any wireless (or free space optical)
> > > technology is going to compete with wireline (including FTH) in an area
> > > where there is abundant infrastructure. The capacity in  fixed wireless
> > > technologies even with the latest advances in technology including MIMO
> > > antenna arrays, CDMA etc is just not there. When you start talking
> > > mobile wireless data delivery, the price/performance ratio changes
> > > making wireless delivery of information profitable provided that you
> > > don't pay XXX billion dollars for bandwidth. Another alternative is
> > > using fixed wireless in areas without infrastructure including
> > > continents other than North America.
> > >
> > > I once participated in a similar analysis for another broadband fixed
> > > wireless delivery network and the capacity to support enough subscribers
> > > such that the scheme broke even was simply unsupportable in the spectrum
> > > that was allocated for the system given the power and antenna size
> > > restrictions.
> > >
> > > Bora Akyol
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 04:36 , Christopher J. Wolff wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello folks,
> > > >
> > > > I heard today that Sprint is ready to capitulate to the FCC and
> > > > reassign the
> > > > radio spectrum it occupies in most major markets (MMDS) to mobile
> > > > use.  I
> > > > guess they will be shutting off the Sprint Broadband Internet product
> > > > in 30
> > > > days.  Can anyone corroborate this?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Christopher J. Wolff, VP, CIO
> > > > Broadband Laboratories, Inc.
> > > > http://www.bblabs.com
> > > > email:chris@bblabs.com
> > > > phone:520.622.4338 x234
> > > >
> > >
> >
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