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Re: Your customer's favorite guru (grc and OT)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Oct 1 22:22:22 2001

Message-Id: <200110020221.f922Lh331409@foo-bar-baz.cc.vt.edu>
To: Wojtek Zlobicki <wojtekz@idirect.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:44:05 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:21:43 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:44:05 EDT, Wojtek Zlobicki <wojtekz@idirect.com>  said:
> I read the post below.  The proposals that Steve has drafted are laughable !
> The scale of work that would need to be done in order to protect NA from
> cyber terrorism is unimaginable.  Telling Internet users not to open email
> attachments if far from a solution.

On the flip side, if you can't keep the users from doing stupid things,
how will you ever secure it?  Yes, his proposals are laughable - but do you want
to even TRY to secure an infrastructure where Gibson's stuff is NOT done?

On the other flip side, the SANS 'Top 20' list was also released today
(http://www.sans.org/top20.htm).  I'd like to state that the inclusion
of Sendmail rather than telnetd as a "top Unix problem" was Not My Fault.

ObNANOG: I *will* take the blame for the reference to RFC1918 addresses
in tne top-20 document. (No, I do NOT want to re-start the flame war - this
is just a heads-up for those who get to do troubleshooting).

				Valdis Kletnieks
				Operating Systems Analyst
				Virginia Tech

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