[43078] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (E.B. Dreger)
Fri Sep 28 19:36:33 2001
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:35:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, "Sean M. Doran" <smd@clock.org>,
nanog@merit.edu, patrick@ianai.net
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> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:53:45 +0100
> From: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
>
> > Instead you get the revolving wheel of excuses like
> you missed:
> 4. We are not paid to accept this crap
So your downstreams pay you to connect to:
+ Your AS only;
+ Some of the Internet, but with little concern re accessibility
of small networks;
+ The whole Internet with as much reliability as possible?
Oh, man, this is starting to sound like a peering policy
argument, in which some people believe that Internet traffic is
theoretically beneficial to both endpoints[1]. Or the reciprocal
compensation arguments that traffic is more beneficial to one
party...
[1] #include <exceptions-mentioned-by-paul-vixie.h>
I'm not arguing against filtering -- in and of itself, filtering
is good. There's enough bad BGP and IGP-to-EGP leakage that I'd
be worried if everyone allowed /32 announcements. But there's a
limit at the other end, too:
Maybe I'll filter anything longer than a /8... I'll also legally
my name to "!U" (pronounced "the network admin formerly known as
'Eddy Dreger') at the same time.
Eddy
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