[43017] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Which had more impact on the net?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Fri Sep 28 01:23:17 2001
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:14:43 +0200
To: George William Herbert <gherbert@retro.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
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At 16:05 27/09/01 -0700, George William Herbert wrote:
>Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> committed:
> >Which had more impact on the the net?
> > 1. Destruction in New York City Sept 11 and following days
> > 2. Nimda virus/worm on Sept Sept 18 and following days
> > 3. Multiple fiber cuts on Sept 26
4. ICANN's thoughts on Internet security
-Hank
>My home business was down for hours from side effects of 1,
>most of a day from side effects of 2, and didn't notice 3.
>
>Current backbone engineers I talk to on a regular basis fall
>about 50:50 into similar experience and having also taken
>a hit Sept 26 AM when Backhoe Roundup began.
>
>Speaking of which, this *has* been an interesting 2+a bit
>week period; reflecting on the various effects sounds like
>a good NANOG paper.
>
> >The Nimda, Code Red I/II, and other worms had a more difuse
> >impact. Their effects show up with a ramping period, peaking
> >after a few hours and then slowly declining over several days.
> >Their impact is extremely long lived. It mostly affects the
> >edges of the network.
>
>I'd disagree somewhat there. I think it mostly affects things
>the further from "backbones" that you get; a lot of ISPs took
>severe hits across their entire network depending on the manner
>in which IP space is allocated across their networks interacting
>with the attack patterns of Nimda. That doesn't map well to at
>least some usage of "edge", but I think I get your point...
>
>
>-george william herbert
>gherbert@retro.com
