[42862] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: National infrastructure asset
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Mon Sep 24 16:55:59 2001
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 13:55:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: Mike Lyon <mlyon@fitzharris.com>
Cc: Anthony Townsend <townsnda@yahoo.com>,
Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>,
Jan-Ahrent Czmok <jan.czmok@gatel.net>,
Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>, "sean@donelan.com" <sean@donelan.com>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
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ah, those are tat-12/13 landing sites, sorry.
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Mike Lyon wrote:
> https://www.tat-14.com/stations.jsp
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
> >
> > tat-14's landing sites are green hill, rhode-island and shirley, new york
> > are they not?
> >
> > joelja
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Anthony Townsend wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > dont forget too that a good part of transatlantic
> > > fiber is backhauled through the holland tunnel into
> > > lower manhattan, one of many reasons why all the
> > > co-los are on the lower west side (in addition to
> > > cheap buildings with heavy load capacity). also one of
> > > the (again many) reasons i presume the tunnel has
> > > remained closed.
> > >
> > > according to Telegeography, Inc of Washington DC most
> > > of the BIG capacity cables like Mercus-1 and TAT14
> > > come ashore in New Jersey around Manasquan. its mostly
> > > the older stuff that arrives on Long Island.
> > >
> > > --- Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Jan-Ahrent Czmok wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:00:30 +0100
> > > > > Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > AB> 111 8th Avenue. These buildings are
> > > > significant PoF in NY, and
> > > > > AB> NY itself is pretty much an SPoF as far as
> > > > transatlantic communication
> > > > > AB> is concerned.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well.. I would declare the SPoF rather in the
> > > > whole area. Fibre trails are
> > > > > coming in from the seaside mostly near Mineola.
> > > >
> > > > Mostly? I donut think so; my recollection is a vast
> > > > majority of
> > > > trans-atlantic stuff coming in ocean and monmouth
> > > > county, NJ (manasquan,
> > > > etc).
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Anthony Townsend
> > > Taub Urban Research Center
> > > New York University
> > > email: anthony.townsend@nyu.edu
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