[4262] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The SWAMP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Tue Sep 10 13:01:07 1996
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:56:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Deepak Jain <deepak@jain.com>
To: Eric Ziegast <ziegast@zee.im.gte.com>
cc: nanog@merit.edu, namedroppers@internic.net
In-Reply-To: <199609100119.SAA12579@zee.im.gte.com>
I can see it taking a while for the initial laziness to be overcome, but
once it is in place, it could provide for a lot of improvements including
multiply-rooted TLDs.
The big thing is WHO would do this distribution? The Internic's systems
are already too overwhelmed and customer support is spotty at best.
If we pass it to those service providers that service others [i.e. 1st
tier] then its more work for them, but I can see it being a much more
reliable process.
Just my two cents,
-Deepak.
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Eric Ziegast wrote:
> > I don't like "automatic" updates.
>
> ... thus the mail when the file is updated and the restart a few
> days later. For my example, the named.root FTP/HTTP/AXFR server
> would have to be at least as secure as a root server, but would
> not have to be more secure.
>
> If people want to review the downloads first, sure, it's a good
> idea. Change the shell script to not move the file and just
> complain to the admin instead:
>
> Mail -s "New Internet root DNS nameservers" hostmaster<<EOF
> The list of root nameservers in `pwd`/named.root is newer
> than your current root.cache file. Please run the following on
> `hostname` after reviewing the contents of the new root server
> list:
> cd `pwd`
> mv named.root root.cache
>
> Sincerely,
> DNS cron on `hostname`
> EOF
>
> The administrator would get around to installing it eventually.
>
> For the PC or Mac servers, I'd want a PCN-style update:
>
> A new root nameserver list has been downloaded.
> Would you like to install it now?
> o Yes
> o Review it and give me an option to install it.
> o No, not now, try me later.
>
>
> The idea is to make sure periodic downloads are encouraged from the
> start and to make sure there is a DNS-known place (whose name is not
> attached to SRI-NIC.ARPA, NIC.DDN.MIL, or FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET) where
> sites can get root server information as long as Internet DNS lives.
>
> IMHO, it's better than promoting laziness by making sure that the
> root nameserver addresses are always the same. (What about IPV6? IPVn?)
>
> My shell script was just an example. Implementation may vary.
>
> --
> Eric Ziegast
>
