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Re: Just Carnivore (was: Yahoogroups and Carnivore)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Len Sassaman)
Mon Sep 17 19:35:30 2001

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Len Sassaman <rabbi@quickie.net>
To: Larry Diffey <ldiffey@technologyforward.com>
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Larry Diffey wrote:

>
> Supposedly Carnivore only targets specific kinds of traffic and doesn't
> really monitor everything at once.  It's not like (again, supposedly)
> Echelon that examines everything and then red flags certain items.

Wrong.

> Carnivore is only looking for certain things.  Also, there is no outside
> access to it.  Someone has to physically come in and remove the mass media
> (what ever that may be: more than likely a hard drive).

Wrong. See the report I posted and the section in it about dialin and ISDN
access.



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