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Re: What Worked - What Didn't

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Mon Sep 17 18:06:15 2001

Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:54:51 -0400
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>
To: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: "'Randy Bush'" <randy@psg.com>,
	Daniel Golding <dgolding@sockeye.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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In-Reply-To: <EA9368A5B1010140ADBF534E4D32C728069ED0@condor.mhsc.com>; from rmeyer@mhsc.com on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:32:56PM -0700
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	You obviously haven't had cases where a telco cuts or swings
the wrong circuit.

	Telco: "We think we've swung it ok"

	Me: "Circuit is still up, never took a hit"

	Telco: "Hmm."

	me (thinking): "I wonder whose circuit they just took down"

	with cdp or looking at the path-trace one could take advantage
of these situations with great ease.

	- jared

On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 02:32:56PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> 
> |> From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com]
> |> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:45 PM
> 
> |> inter-isp peering and intra-isp ibgp to be covered fairly quickly.  i
> |> would suggest having one's provisioning folk working with 
> |> bgp customers
> |> to close that avenue as well, starting with the more 
> |> critical customers.
> |> 
> |> also, think about your igp.
> 
> Why, IGP shouldn't even be visible from outside the border, neh? Internal
> issues are, internal issues. If it leaks, plug the leak.

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