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RE: Yahoogroups and Carnivore

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland Meyer)
Mon Sep 17 16:34:54 2001

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From: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
To: 'Jay Fenello' <Jay@Fenello.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:17:42 -0700
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|> From: Jay Fenello [mailto:Jay@Fenello.com]
|> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:26 PM
|> 
|> As of yesterday, the performance of Yahoogroup's has
|> degraded from a couple minutes, to a couple of hours
|> between posting and distribution. It is rumored that
|> this is due to Carnivore being installed at major
|> ISPs throughout the country.
|> 
|> Any insights?

Carnivore is a very bad and expensive joke. The counter move is to simply
move all content into a SSH or MS-PPTP VPN. Every *nix server can do both
and every Win2Kserver and workstation can do the latter. Then VOIP can be
used through the tunnel. Voila! ... fully mil-spec encrypted communications.
All Carnivore does is burn bandwidth and provide choke-points, aka single
points of failure.

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