[42522] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Yahoogroups and Carnivore
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Mon Sep 17 16:15:15 2001
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:07:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: Cristopher Daniluk <cris@dsnet.net>
Cc: "'Jay Fenello'" <Jay@Fenello.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Cristopher Daniluk wrote:
> That's just a silly statement, it's a text processor/parser. It's another
> layer. Of course its going to have an effect. On the average person, I would
> venture to guess its overwhelmingly negligible, but it could very well
> bottleneck someone like Yahoo.
you don't really understand how it works...
see the marcus Thomas fbi - presentation on carnivore at nanog-20
http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/nanog/nanog_20.html
carnivore is a passive not an active data-collector. traffic is replicated
to it rather than passed through it...
joelja
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> > Joel Jaeggli
> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:40 PM
> > To: Jay Fenello
> > Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: Yahoogroups and Carnivore
> >
> >
> >
> > A properly installed carnivore should have zero effect on the traffic
> > passed through it...
> >
> > joelja
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Jay Fenello wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As of yesterday, the performance of Yahoogroup's has
> > > degraded from a couple minutes, to a couple of hours
> > > between posting and distribution. It is rumored that
> > > this is due to Carnivore being installed at major
> > > ISPs throughout the country.
> > >
> > > Any insights?
> > >
> > > Jay.
> > >
> > > +++
> > >
> > > Jay Fenello, Internet Coaching
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It is clear that the arm of criticism cannot replace the criticism of
arms. Karl Marx -- Introduction to the critique of Hegel's Philosophy of
the right, 1843.
