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RE: On Internet and social responsibility

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (measl@mfn.org)
Sat Sep 15 13:57:40 2001

Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:57:10 -0500 (CDT)
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To: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: Vadim Antonov <avg@exigengroup.com>, nanog@merit.edu
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:

> Personally, I have no problems with
> US State telling me I can't do business with terrorists. Do you? 

Absolutely I do.  I would have no problem with the USG placing
people/countries/whatever on lists that I could use as a reference to make
a *volutary* decision as to whether I wanted to do business with them, but
to proscribe it is wrong.

First of all, I may not necessarily agree with the USG on all of these
"entries", secondly, the lists are obviously not compiled in a manner
designed solely to cut of the "bad guys".  For example, we have China as a
"most favored nation".  Right there the whole idea of an impartial list
falls apart...

Aside from the impartiality issue, I do not believe that the USG has a
constitutional right to forbid me from engaging any person/place/thing in
an otherwise lawful transaction.

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> Morgan Hill Software Company
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Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin@mfn.org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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