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Re: ABC News mentions Echelon

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Neiberger)
Wed Sep 12 12:03:43 2001

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From: John Neiberger <neiby@excite.com>
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|  
|  --- Marshall Eubanks <tme@21rst-century.com> wrote:
|  > 
|  > They must be referring to echelon. What's interesting
|  > is that ABC news is saying that they have echolon
|  > like capabilities in the Continental US. 
|  > 
|  > This is much rumoured but always denied and probably
|  > technically illegal.
|  
|  Hogwash.  The US laws prevent only the US Agency from spying on it's
|  citizens.  There is nothing that prevents the other Echelon partners (I
|  beleive they are Austrailia, Britian, and New Zealand) from doing the
|  spying and sharing the results.  
|  
|  -Jim P.

The US doesn't even bother with all of that; they directly monitor domestic
communications of American citizens as a matter of routine.  Sad, but true. 
I know this because I know someone who used to be involved with the project.
He denies that it is called Echelon but he does not deny that it exists.

John





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