[41372] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Batchelor)
Fri Sep 7 13:46:49 2001
From: "Mike Batchelor" <mikebat@tmcs.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:45:44 -0700
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> Eric Hall <ehall@ehsco.com> has expressed the position succinctly:
>
> > The fact is that I can write an Internet-compliant application in
> > about two minutes that will break every NAT ever sold, simply because
> > they don't have a proxy for the protocol. NATs violate fundamental
> > Internet principles.
>
> Many stupid things can be done in about two minutes. This particular
> fundamentalist tenet has been at odds with reality since the first
> firewall was installed, and will only become more so.
>
> Jim Shankland
Oh yes, the firewall. That convenient device that network software
developers can assume will always pass port 80 and 443 traffic. So
everything uses port 80 and 443 in the future Internet, and we're all the
better for it.
Uh-huh.
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