[41360] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Where NAT disenfranchises the end-user ...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric A. Hall)
Fri Sep 7 02:04:03 2001
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From: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
To: "Jim Shankland" <nanog@shankland.org>,
"Tony Hain" <alh-ietf@tndh.net>, "Roeland Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:03:35 -0500
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> From: "Jim Shankland" <nanog@shankland.org>
> Nicely put. Of course, that model does not correspond to reality, nor
> is it ever likely to. Traffic is always going to be controlled,
> filtered, redirected, and translated at administrative boundaries.
> Global, packet-level, end-to-end connectivity is dead, until somebody
> comes up with a compelling argument for why a Windows PC in an
> Internet cafe in Sofia, Bulgaria needs unfettered, packet-level access
> to a Coke machine in a break room at Sun Microsystems in Palo Alto.
Or why a team of gamers need to be able to coordinate n-way traffic between
them without each of them having listeners
Or why a protocol would need to embed addressing into the datastream
Not like any of that will ever happen.
