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Re: multi-homing fixed

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Wed Aug 29 14:31:37 2001

Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:32:07 +0200 (CEST)
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Randy Bush wrote:

> > how many providers have multiple POP's in a city that are _completely
> > redundant_?  That is, they can operate _fully_ with one POP out of
> > service?

> none can operate *fully*, as a customer access line pretty much has to
> terminate in a single router which can, and eventually will, fail.

> but, most large providers have more than one pop in the largest cities,
> bay area, nyc, dee cee, etc.  and those pops are redundantly and diversely
> wired.  if not, don't buy from them.  life can be simple.

So we don't want to force networks in the default-free zone to buy bigger
routers with more memory, but it's ok to force them to essentially build a
second network by having redundant pops in every city?

I'm sure the router vendors and colo builders would love this idea, but I
don't think throwing hardware at the problem will help in the long run.

Iljitsch van Beijnum


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