[409] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Other flapping prefixes. Compare and contrast.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael F. Nittmann)
Tue Sep 12 10:04:38 1995
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:41:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael F. Nittmann" <mn@ios.com>
To: Dave Siegel <dsiegel@rtd.com>
cc: smd@icp.net, nanog@MERIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <199509121328.GAA28912@seagull.rtd.com>
Resent-From: nanog@MERIT.EDU
Well, after all this, can we then get say to a point where we define like
engineering guidelines.
This exists in machine engineering and everywhere else.
It would mean that certain types of access shouldbe designed in a certain
manner, and also explain why and what the impacts are (see my earlier
post, yes, everybody knows how to do this).
There are more points, not only this one: proxy agg, as path manipulation
etc.
This way a provider has at least the chance to check if his design is
'within the normal and customary'.
Since these things are no corporate secrets, how about giving it a corner
on the merit web sites?
I still maintain that public complaint about something that is between
providers, without (this is the point) constructive proposal of a
solution, is public whining. Well, you all seem to accept and like this,
we all have our views.
Mike
On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Dave Siegel wrote:
> > Can we stop this bashing right here, Sean? I don't believe that this list
> > is the adequate forum four such childish behaviour. I have a collection
> > of your past emails and I am rather fed up withthis.
> >
> > Can Sean be removed from the list? These are not contributions in any
> > sense of constructivity at all.
>
> I disagree.
>
> When the traditional channels don't work, sometimes publicity is the only thing
> to cause a company to pay attention.
>
> Do not underestimate the value of peer pressure. We all have to resort to it
> at one point or another.
>
> Furthermore, Sean has contributed many construtive posts to this list in the
> onslaught of arguments.
>
>
> Let's not call the kettle black.
>
> Dave
>
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