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Re: NOC servers with public/private ip address

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher A. Woodfield)
Wed Aug 15 10:40:25 2001

Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:40:12 -0400
To: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: 'R Z' <mypop3mail@yahoo.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Message-ID: <20010815104012.B27014@semihuman.com>
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From: "Christopher A. Woodfield" <rekoil@semihuman.com>
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If you're talking about assigning RFC1918 space to router interfaces that 
transit traffic, a la @home, keep in mind that this can break PMTU-D, and 
makes for messy (and slow) traceroutes when external hosts try to resolve 
unresolvable reverse DNS entries.  

If you're talking about giving the workstations in your 
NOC private IP addresses, using NAT to access your core routers, I see no 
more a problem with that than I do with people using home DSL routers that 
utilize NAT.

-C

On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 04:59:34PM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> 
> The demonstration is easy. 
> 
> 1) Convince them that it is really no-goodnik to show private addrs on the
> Internet.
> 2) then make them believe it religiously.
> 3) then show them a traceroute and explain that everyone on the planet has
> traceroute.
> 
> The only reasonable conclusion, from that sequence, is that ALL routers and
> routing hosts need a static IP addr.
> 
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: R Z [mailto:mypop3mail@yahoo.com]
> |> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:50 PM
> |> To: nanog@merit.edu
> |> Subject: NOC servers with public/private ip address
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Hi, all,
> |> 
> |> We are an ISP with some internet routers. The question is if 
> |> we should use
> |> public or private ip address in NMS/NOC to manage these 
> |> routers. If we want
> |> to save ip address and use private ip address, we need to 
> |> have private
> |> address on the internet routers. Although I am almost religious that
> |> internet routers should NEVER have private address in the 
> |> routing table, I
> |> still need more reasons to convince other people. Can 
> |> someone pls tell me
> |> the pros and cons of using private ip address? Is there any 
> |> issue with
> |> private ip address? What is the practice in your network?
> |> 
> |> Your insight is highly appreciated.
> |> Richard
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
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