[40592] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Wojtek Zlobicki)
Tue Aug 14 09:08:24 2001
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From: "Wojtek Zlobicki" <wojtekz@idirect.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:07:49 -0400
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> There are plenty, but most of us are too goddamn lazy to do it ourselves,
> and ask for an ORBS or MAPS like service to do it for us. We have ?
> NEVER had a spam problem (we've been here since 1994) going out - not > a
single incident (not that we probably won't haqve one *someday*, but ?
>still, it's a hell of a good track record).
>
There aren't plenty of ways. If it were such an easy task, we would not be
having this conversation.
> The SPAM problem goes up and down to be sure, but you know what?
> PROCMAIL
> is your friend. All you need to look for are the basics (ADV, Make Money,
> etc) and you can instatly filter 90 percent of this trash into the
> bitbucket.
>
So lets see, I write an email to a client and use the words "make money"
either in the header or in the body of the message... did someone all of a
sudden give you the right to filter my mail based on content? Glad I don't
have you doing my mail.
> Lets get my position straight: I think spam is annoying as heel, and
> should not be done. I don't think that SPAM is going to cause any major
> social upheavals. I also disagree that all people want to be spared from
> SPAM, and with thaqt in mind, I believe everyone should defend themselves
> to the best of their interest, and leave the next guy alone: he or she
> probably has *way* more important things to worry about.
>
SPAM is a major problem. It is causing large ISPs and SP a great deal of
money and resources. Why should I have to spend my hard earned profits
purchasing filtering solutions like Brightmail. If there is an industry
created due to problems dealing with SPAM, we have a big issue on our hands.
Lets Make a List of Things we need to get done
1) World Peace 2) End to Hunger 3) Elimination of SPAM