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RE: Code Red 2 cleanup; reporting..

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Devries)
Fri Aug 10 11:26:32 2001

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From: Tim Devries <Tim.Devries@Q9.com>
To: 'Roeland Meyer' <rmeyer@mhsc.com>, "'up@3.am'" <up@3.am>,
	nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:23:11 -0400
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roeland Meyer [mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 11:22 AM
To: 'up@3.am'; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Code Red 2 cleanup; reporting.. 



> From: up@3.am [mailto:up@3.am]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:09 AM
> 
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> 
> > Win2K boxen are ALWAYS running IIS. It doesn't matter 
> whether you have Pro
> > or Server. ALL Win2K systems need to run the patch. MSFT 
> chose to integrate
> > much of the IIS stuff into DLLs with other system critical 
> stuff. As a
> > result, IIS can't be completely removed without killing off 
> other critical
> > functions. Yes, what they proved in court is even more true 
> with Win2K than
> > with Win98 (Duh! MSFT didn't lie, but they didn't tell the 
> whole truth
> > either). WinXP is even more in that direction, from all reports.
> 
> I admit to knowing very little about Win2k, but on the only box I've
> installed Win2k on, it doesn't *appear* to be running:
> 
> Port    State       Protocol  Service
> 135     open        tcp        loc-srv
> 139     filtered    tcp        netbios-ssn
> 445     open        tcp        microsoft-ds
> 1025    open        tcp        list
> 
> ...unless it runs on one of those 3 other open ports?  This was Win2k
> Client, not server, BTW...perhaps you mean every Win2k Server?

Win2k proffesional can run IIS.  Goto add remove programs -->add/remove
windows components ---> IIS.
You probably did not select the component on the install.
So I guess that means that not every w2k box is vulnerable.

Tim

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Roeland Meyer [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com">mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 11:22 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'up@3.am'; nanog@merit.edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Code Red 2 cleanup; reporting.. </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: up@3.am [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:up@3.am">mailto:up@3.am</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:09 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Roeland Meyer =
wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Win2K boxen are ALWAYS running IIS. It =
doesn't matter </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; whether you have Pro</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; or Server. ALL Win2K systems need to run =
the patch. MSFT </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; chose to integrate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; much of the IIS stuff into DLLs with other =
system critical </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; stuff. As a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; result, IIS can't be completely removed =
without killing off </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; other critical</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; functions. Yes, what they proved in court =
is even more true </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; with Win2K than</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; with Win98 (Duh! MSFT didn't lie, but they =
didn't tell the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; whole truth</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; either). WinXP is even more in that =
direction, from all reports.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I admit to knowing very little about Win2k, but =
on the only box I've</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; installed Win2k on, it doesn't *appear* to be =
running:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Port&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
State&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Protocol&nbsp; Service</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 135&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
open&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
tcp&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; loc-srv</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 139&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
filtered&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
tcp&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; netbios-ssn</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 445&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
open&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
tcp&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; microsoft-ds</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1025&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
open&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
tcp&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ...unless it runs on one of those 3 other open =
ports?&nbsp; This was Win2k</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Client, not server, BTW...perhaps you mean =
every Win2k Server?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Win2k proffesional can run IIS.&nbsp; Goto add remove =
programs --&gt;add/remove windows components ---&gt; IIS.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>You probably did not select the component on the =
install.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>So I guess that means that not every w2k box is =
vulnerable.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tim</FONT>
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