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Re: MPLS VPNs or not?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nipper, Arnold)
Tue Aug 7 19:10:53 2001

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From: "Nipper, Arnold" <arnold@nipper.de>
To: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>,
	"Christian Kuhtz" <ck@arch.bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Yakov Rekhter" <yakov@juniper.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:08:16 +0200
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Randy rants:

> 
> > If it is so clear, how about engaging in a discussion and providing a
> > rationale and reply to those who say it ain't so?  If you can provide
> > solid arguments disproving the arguments of those who think it is
> > scalable, I think it would be very easily put to rest.
> 
> are you running it on the same routers as your main backbone?  is it
> simpler or (someday please, oh godded) less code?  tell your bean
> counters how scalable it is.
> 
> and don't give me the bumph about provisioning costs.  any transit
> and/or vpn vendor that is not completely auto-configured knows the
> deepest, darkest, most horrid, and expensive truth about non-
> scalability.
> 

Ch vs R: 2:0 

Randy, still no arguments,

-- Arnold


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